Friday, May 21, 2010

When my stud dog has sired do i receive a certificate from the k.c [uk]?

my dog is hipscored eye tested, he has sired to my own females but he is now up for stud. do i receive some sort of verification from the k.c to confirm he has produced the litter.i didnt receive anything, but is that because i am the owner of the female and the male? once he is out for stud and i sign the papers to confirm he is my boy, and that he has fathered the pups, how do i prove he has produced to future [potential] people who contact me?


any constuctive advice would be helpful, thank you so much.

When my stud dog has sired do i receive a certificate from the k.c [uk]?
Not complety sure how it works in the UK,, But here as the stud dog owner, you do not recieve some certificate for just producing pups..


There is special reconition in each breed "club" for Hall of Fame (HOF) or Reward of merit (ROM),, that the stud dog can recieve,, but this is given to dogs that produce a particular number of Obedience, working/perfomance and conformation Champions.. The requirements in each breed are slightly diffrent,, But for example if your stud dog has produced this many CH, this many Obedience titles, this many working titles then he would have either a ROM or HOF status.. this can be achieved either during the dogs lifetime, or after..


as a stud dog owner,,


you do have to sign the litter application,, of couse,, that is the proof he has sired the litter,, along with your records you keep..


As for future people intrested,,


at a minimum.. as a stud dog owner,, should be keeping track of how many pups born, colors.. But also bee keeping track of each individual pup.. as far as potential Structual qualities, hip scores, eye exams, dental faults, undecended testicles, hernias, temperments, working ability, show status,, for example,, overall health history.. so when people are looking at your male,, you can provide a history of what he has produced in the past,, along with any potential problems he may be carrying,, what pedigrees he has complemented, what ones he has not..


In the case of a young stud dog,, that is new to public access.. Not been "proven" as far as what he produces,, you look at, his parents, littermates,, and extended family..(pedigree) for refrence,, this gives you a idea what he may be strong in to complement a ***** or not..





As a general rule,, MOST reputable breeders will contact you because of what your dog has done,, and also what has been produced,, What is pedigree has to offfer,, More than just how many CH,, is on it..As a stud dog owner you should be selective as to what females you male is allowed to breed too.. so it does require you review pedigree, health and quality of the females that come to you..


good quality females,, combined with a good quality male are what make a stud dog in demand,, there will be females that are just not "good" enough for your male,, so as a stud dog owner,, if you want a dog with a good reputation, and in demand,, it does require you to be selective in who you breed to.. because even though many issues,, do require BOTH the sire and dam to contribute the genes,, it is the STUD dog people look at or blame when there are problems.. or give credit to when a dog does well,,





Advertising helps, although it really depends on where,, breed publications are a good place,, but newspapers,, ARE not because good breeders with the quality dogs do not select stud dogs from there.. as a whole,, a good quality male that has nice quality get (kids) out and about doing well in the show or perfomance venue.. so his ability "certificate" he has sired a litter is never in question.. because of what he already has.. Make sense?


it is Not just his ability to sire pups.. or lots of litters,, that people are looking for in a stud dog (at leas reputable breeders) you can prove a dogs fertility with a simple lab test.. There are plenety of males,, out there that "can" produce losts of pups,, but do not produce the traits a ***** owner is looking for,, or in some cases produce enough probems,, or lack of quality really should not be bred too..


it is his ability to sire,, that actually is never in question.. but What he does produce,, so getiing out with the dog, shows/perfomance events.. getting his get out too.. are what people are looking for.. Again the applies only to reputable/serious breeders.. there will always be people who are "just" looking for the most convienient intact male to breed a litter..in most cases these are not the people that you really want to do buisness with.. because it is your reputation, your males reputation and the overall health and qualities of the pups produced that should be a priority.. and a lot of people looking to breed,, perhaps should not be breeding in the first place, or that particualr dog,, or at least not to your male.. because it it not a good cross..





When problems show up it is ALWAYS the stud dog blamed.. also as a stud dog, if he is a carrier for a partiular negitive falult or health problem,, it is VERY easy to spread this issue further into the whole breed population.. because they are able to sire such a large number of problems.. This is called popular sire effect..





You can prove a dogs fertility buy a simple lab test,, it is what that particualr dog has produced,, not if, the number or how many times that people are looking for..or at least reputable breeders..





Hope this helps..





Amanda
Reply:No you don't. You sign the litter registration papers and that's it. The details of the litter will be published in the KC Breed Registration Supplement which is published quarterly %26amp; available from the KC
Reply:No, you receive no certificate. You are only required to sign the registration papers for The Kennel club when the puppies


are registered. The only certificate you receive for the male dog, is if your dog has been awarded a Stud Book Number, when the dog is shown and wins certain awards. Unfortunately, unless you show your dog and his offspring are shown too, you can't prove anything !!! (unless you are keeping any pups, then you will have the papers to prove ) Make sure that any females that may come to him have had all their hip/eyes tested too, and ask for proof.
Reply:contact them when pups are born and pay 10 pound for each one to get the paper work
Reply:are both dam and sire KC reg? if not then you cannot register the pups so no you wont reciveve any paper work.


if they are, i think you have to register the pups then you get the certificate
Reply:it will be on the KC records


show the dam owners photos of his puppies


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